Flo Anthony on Dr. Drew

Flo was and said Remember the Time was about Debbie Rowe, among somethings she said Michael and her had sex.


Flo Anthony insists in the same thing I think many fans know more han her.

Remember The Time lyrics

Do You Remember
When We Fell In Love
We Were Young
And Innocent Then
Do You Remember
How It All Began
It Just Seemed Like Heaven
So Why Did It End?

Do You Remember
Back In The Fall
We'd Be Together
All Day Long
Do You Remember
Us Holding Hands
In Each Other's Eyes
We'd Stare
(Tell Me)

Do You Remember The Time
When We Fell In Love
Do You Remember The Time
When We First Met girl
Do You Remember The Time
When We Fell In Love
Do You Remember The Time

Do You Remember
How We Used To Talk
(Ya Know)
We'd Stay On The Phone
At Night Till Dawn
Do You Remember
All The Things We Said Like
I Love You So
I'll Never Let You Go

Do You Remember
Back In The Spring
Every Morning Birds Would Sing
Do You Remember
Those Special Times
They'll Just Go On And On
In The Back Of My Mind

Do You Remember The Time
When We Fell In Love
Do You Remember The Time
When We First Met Girl
Do You Remember The Time
When We Fell In Love
Do You Remember The Time
Those Sweet Memories

Always Be Dear To Me
And Girl No Matter What Was Said
I Will Never Forget What We Had
Now Baby

Do You Remember The Time
When We Fell In Love
Do You Remember The Time
When We First Met girl
Do You Remember The Time
When We Fell In Love
Do You Remember The Time

Do You Remember The Time
When We Fell In Love
Do You Remember The Time
When We First Met
Do You Remember The Time
When We Fell In Love
Do You Remember The Time

Remember The Times
Ooh
Remember The Times
Do You Remember Girl
Remember The Times
On The Phone You And Me
Remember The Times
Till Dawn, Two Or Three
What About Us Girl

Remember The Times
Do You. Do You, Do You,
Do You, Do You
Remember The Times
In The Park, On The Beach
Remember The Times
You And Me In Spain
Remember The Times
What About, What About...

Remember The Times
Ooh... In The Park
Remember The Times
After Dark..., Do You, Do You, Do You
Remember The Times
Do You, Do You, Do You, Do You
Remember The Times
Yeah Yeah
Remember The Times

Someone aske Randy about Remember the time, he said this


"Randy you have investigated so much about MJ, please could you say me who was his inspiration when he wrote Remember the time. Jermaine says it was Diana Ross in his new book, other rumors it was Brooke, the journalist Flo Anthony said in this last week on Dr. Drew it definitely was about Debbie Rowe after that Teddy Riley said in his twitter it was not about Rowe. It is crazy you are my last hope."

"J. Randy Taraborrelli My information has always been that it's about Diana Ross. So I would go with Diana. :-)"

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SMITH: All right. Joining us tonight to talk about some of these medical concerns, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a friend and spiritual adviser to Michael and author of the new book, "ten Conversations You Need to Have with Yourself." Flo Anthony, also a good friend of Michael, and she knew Michael for 30 years. And Dr. John Dombrowski joins us again. He`s anesthesiologist and a pain management specialist.

Thank you all for being here. Flo, let me start with you, and let`s talk first about some of these other medical issues. They were coming up today in the medical examiner`s testimony. He was talking about what Michael Jackson suffered from. You just heard that interview about Michael Jackson denying that he bleached his skin. Tell us what you know about this.

FLO ANTHONY, FRIEND OF MICHAEL JACKSON: Well, he did suffer from vitiligo, and what vitiligo does, it does cause spotting of white spots on your skin. So, he did not bleach his skin to get totally white, but he was able to use creams that would even his skin tone out so that he wouldn`t just, you know, be turning the white color at a time and have the blotches all over his skin.

SMITH: So, did he actually bleach his skin?

ANTHONY: You know, I wouldn`t call it bleaching his skin. I would say he used creams to even it out, but he would eventually turn white like that anyway. Anyone who suffers from vitiligo does, but it wouldn`t be a pretty process, you know, while it was going on.

SMITH: And Dr. Dombrowski, let`s talk about vitiligo. It is a big part of Michael Jackson`s story. He talked about it many times. Can you tell us a little about it and how one starts developing vitiligo?

DR. JOHN DOMBROWSKI, ANESTHESIOLOGIST & PAIN MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST: Well, from my understanding from, you know, medical school, I mean, it`s quite -- it`s a little off topic from an anesthesiologist, but vitiligo has to do with the melanin which causes color in someone`s skin.

And, obviously, blacks have larger melanocytes or pigment cells and whites, like myself, have very little. And it`s very common for those melanocytes to die out causing this, you know, bleaching or whitening of the skin. It can happen in, you know, a blacks, and it can happen in whites also. Beyond that, I really can`t speak much to that point.

SMITH: OK. Doctor, thank you. You know, on the stand today was that forensic pathologist who conducted Michael Jackson`s autopsy. Now, he talked about Michael Jackson suffering from vitiligo. He confirmed that, and he also confirmed a few other ailments. Take a look.

ANTHONY: Well, I want to say first of all that I disagree and agree with Rabbi Shmuley. First of all, he began taking the pain medication because his scalp caught on fire. Then again, he suffered a severe back injury during performing when a stage dropped, so he needed the pain medication. So, it wasn`t something that was in his mind.

And, he was a severe insomniac, and of course, it was way, way out of hand with the way that I do agree that these doctors were feeding him medicine. I`m not going to say he was prescribing it to himself because he couldn`t do it. Has he always said that he was somewhat lonely? Yes. But I think a lot of entertainers feel that, but he was certainly loved by his family, and he did have friends.

SMITH: He had a lot of friends, and he had a lot of fans that loved him as well. All right. Hold on for just one second. We`re going to come right back.

But when we come back, we`ll get into the real Michael Jackson. We`re getting to what was discussed in court today. We`ll talk about this.

Now, I want you to go to hlntv.com/michaeljackson for the latest trial coverage. Everything you need to know about this trial is on there, including a lot of the stuff that we see that you don`t necessarily see in the public. All of that is there. So, you can go and check it out.

Now, Guinness Book of World Records recognizes Michael Jackson as the most successful entertainer of all time, but Flo Anthony says he was simply her best buddy. Going to talk to her about that next.

Plus, the tabloid lies. We have the truth, and that`s coming up.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SMITH: Thirty years ago, Michael Jackson went to Disneyland. He brought a woman who was a great friend of his. We`re going to talk about her in just a second, but take a look at that picture you just saw, that`s the courthouse where Conrad Murray is facing trial. Now, again, we talk about Michael`s friends. The people who knew him best.

Well, the woman I`m about to introduce you to, reintroduce you to, has known him for years. Now, joining us today, first, I`ve got my good friend, Stacy Kaiser, a psychotherapist, with insight into how Michael`s kids are coping, and we`re going to talk a little bit about Michael Jackson and some of what came up today in the case.

And also, back with us, Flo Anthony. She`s the woman who has known Michael Jackson for almost 30 years. She`s back with us. She`s a radio host and reporter who traveled the world with the King of Pop. And she`s going to reveal the truth behind some of those stories that you`ve heard over and over again about Michael Jackson.

Now, Flo, you were so close to Michael Jackson. Tell us what was the biggest tabloid myth that you`ve heard about him that you just want to debunk at this point?

ANTHONY: I want to say first, Ryan, we met at Disneyworld, not Disneyland in Orlando, Florida.

SMITH: That`s my -- oh, I`m sorry about that, but thank you for --

ANTHONY: That`s OK. It`s all kind of the same, but Disneyworld, and that was their first time there, too. And, it`s OK. You can say I knew him 30 years because once Mike turned 50, the rest of us couldn`t lie about our ages. So --

(LAUGHTER)

ANTHONY: But I would say earlier that -- the hyperbaric chamber, they just took that picture. He didn`t really sleep in that.

SMITH: So, that`s not real. And you know, I heard something, Flo, and maybe you can help me with this. I heard from another close friend of Michael Jackson that, sometimes, he would step out and say things to the press, maybe to get a bit of a reaction, but eventually, when the press turned on him a little bit, it angered him and made him want to withdraw.

Is that something that you heard? For example, I heard the hyperbaric chamber was something he kind of wanted to throw out there.

ANTHONY: Yes. He threw it out there. They delivered the picture over to the "National Enquirer" and it worked. I mean, it`s still showing the picture today, but you can look at that and see. I mean, he`s fully clothed. That wasn`t really how he was sleeping. But I would agree with the person that said that about him earlier.

He did make a lot of statements. You know, he was a prankster. He liked to see people`s reactions, but as the media began to turn on him, he did withdraw and became, you know, rather reclusive.

SMITH: You know, Stacy Kaiser, a lot of people would say it`s a bit of -- you can`t have your cake and eat it too situation. Michael Jackson kind of courting the media a little bit in the past, and when it backfires, he`s very upset. What is that -- does that tell you anything about him and his character?

STACY KAISER, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: Well, I work with a lot of celebrities, and they have a similar complaint. What it tells me about Michael is he wants to give what he wants to give. And that`s what we saw all along. When he was ready to give, he gave a 100 percent. And when he pulled back, he was gone 100 percent. He was a very extreme man, and I think that was evidence of that.

SMITH: You know, it`s an important point. I can, in some way, see how, I guess, some people would say that might interact with the way things are going in this trial maybe, because, Stacy, there`s this thought out there that maybe Michael Jackson was telling these doctors what to give him. And we cannot know that for sure. I want to say that first.

We can never know what was really going on in his mind. He`s not here to talk about it. But, at the same time, do you get the sense that maybe there was a bit of an employer-employee relationship here with him and Dr. Murray, not to absolve Dr. Murray of anything he might have done. But, is that -- have you seen that kind of interaction and you`re seeing that here?

KAISER: That is my opinion. Of course, I don`t know anything for specific either.

SMITH: Right.

KAISER: However, here`s what I can say. He was working for Michael Jackson. And, even some of the greatest professionals I know get caught up in the celebrity and want to please the celebrity and want to keep that relationship, and they will cross the line, even if it`s just a little bit so that they can keep that relationship.

SMITH: You know, Flo, talk to us about this. You have more insight than any of us do. In terms of being out there, and there`s one -- just one thing I want to show first. In terms of being out there, there was so much we didn`t know about Michael Jackson.

You know, we talk about his death now, but that child molestation trial, a lot of people talked about how that took the life out of him. I want to show you something that you said back during that 2005 trial. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ANTHONY: Of course, that`s not normal behavior for any adult, but as all of us that are familiar with Michael and with the Jackson family have said during the week, Michael, there`s one side of him that`s a very shrewd business man that is an adult. There`s another side of him that is a child.


And he relates to children. What everyone is forgetting here is this mother had she, herself, was in bed with Michael and the little girl and the little boy from February until June.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SMITH: I can`t imagine what that must have been like back then for him, Flo, but you see yourself six years ago. I have to tell you, Flo --

(LAUGHTER)

SMITH: Flo, what is this -- tell us about that experience with Michael and how that trial changed him forever.

ANTHONY: Well, you know, the first child molestation accusations did not go to trial. You know, Michael reached a settlement with them, that was Johnny Cochran`s suggestion. But the second one, the trial broke his spirit. I mean, you know, afterwards, I think that he was a broken spirit because he had been very kind to these people.

I mean, you know, the young man in question had cancer and that`s really how Michael got involved with him being a cancer patient, and he`d been so kind that he was totally taken aback when they turned around and accused him of molesting him.

SMITH: And so, that changed him. Now, --

ANTHONY: Yes, it did.

SMITH: Let`s talk about the children, because that`s another factor in all of this. And Stacy, I want to talk about this, because today, Dr. Murray talked about the effect on the children. That they were there at the hospital, and according to Dr. Murray, they`re crying. Paris says to Dr. Murray, you save so many patients in your life, but you couldn`t save my dad.

Later, according to Dr. Murray, she says I know you did your best. What do you think the effect all of this is on the children, because not only did we hear that tape, but we saw the picture of a deceased Michael Jackson in court today. A lot of us hope that they weren`t looking so they didn`t have to see that. What`s the effect of all this on them?

KAISER: I think the effect is really significant now, and it`s going to be huge as they grow up, because even if they didn`t see that picture now, that picture is on the internet forever.

SMITH: Yes.

KAISER: It`s something that they will see that their friends will see. And most of us, when we grieve for someone we lost, we get to grieve privately. And these children, even though they`re being sheltered in some ways, they`re grieving very publicly. They`re expected to come out at tributes and things like that, and it makes it harder for them to deal with the feelings that they`re having inside.

SMITH: But they went to this tribute concert. Do you think that was Katherine Jackson`s way of getting them away from all of this and keeping them safe so they don`t have to focus on the trial?

KAISER: I think it was a great distraction for them. They certainly looked happy, but, what I worry about is what`s going on behind the scenes. Are these kids getting their emotions taken care of not just with Katherine, who I`m sure is doing great job, but with a counselor of some sort.

SMITH: All right. You know what, we`ll be right back. We`ll continue talking about Michael Jackson and his life. We`ll talk to Flo Anthony about her experiences with him. Got a lot to talk about, so keep it right here.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SMITH: Welcome back to Dr. Drew. I`m Ryan Smith filling in for Dr. Drew tonight. And what a day it was in court today. Not only did we hear Dr. Murray`s voice in court, but we also heard from the medical examiner who said that Michael Jackson`s death was a homicide. He also said that Michael Jackson couldn`t have self-administered propofol to himself. Big blow to the defense.

But you know, right now, we`re talking about Michael Jackson because his medical history came out in this case. We`re talking about who he really was. Now, I want to go back out to Flo Anthony. Stacy Kaiser is also with me. Flo, you know, it`s interesting with Michael Jackson. And first, we dug up an old clip of you and Michael Jackson on "Inside Edition." So, let`s take a look at this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We caught Michael mingling with the extras and joking with the crew. There were no surgical masks and no hovering body guards. Michael`s good friend, Flo Anthony was there.


ANTHONY: There are all these rumors going around that Michael Jackson video shoot, you`re not allowed to look at him.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SMITH: Oh, Flo, we have all the good pictures of you from the past.

ANTHONY: I don`t think I had a hairdresser in the 1990s.

(LAUGHTER)

ANTHONY: God --

(CROSSTALK)

(LAUGHTER)

SMITH: Well, Flo, I got to tell you. What strikes you about this video, Michael Jackson looked great. He was talking and meeting with crew. He was hugging you. Was that really Michael Jackson at his best?


ANTHONY: Oh, yes. Afterwards, everybody went over to the Motown Cafe. He was always at his best. I was also in the video shoot for the scream video with he and Janet. And at that time, Janet`s husband said, you know what, you can get in NASA easier than you can get in here, Michael must love you. So, you know, he was -- I never saw him when he wasn`t at his best.


He was always jovial. Even after that second trial, the child molestation accusations, when I spoke to him, I was telling him about all these e-mails that I wanted him to see that the bands were sending me, and he`s -- you know, that were in support. He said, oh, I want to see the e- mails. He was always enthusiastic and very happy whenever I saw him.


SMITH: All right. You know, and I got to tell you, he will -- we remember that enthusiasm about him so much when we talk about Michael Jackson. Now, one other thing I want to ask you, Flo, we`re short on time, so I want to get your thought on this. Debbie Rowe, now, I know you had communication with her before.

We see the children all the time, but we don`t see her in all of this. What do you know about her relationship with Michael Jackson, and is she, if you happen to know, talking to the kids at this point, communicating with them?


ANTHONY: I don`t know her relationship with the kids at this point, but what a lot of people don`t realize is that Michael had an 18-year relationship with Debbie, prior to Prince being born and him marrying her, and Michael also wrote "Remember the Time" for Debbie.

So, their relationship even went a lot deeper than a lot of people realize. She wasn`t just some sort of incubator, and she told me, you know, they had sex, and that`s how those two children were conceived.


SMITH: All right. And you know what, we never heard that before that that`s why he wrote that song just for her, their interaction.

ANTHONY: Yes.

SMITH: Stacy, real quick, that Debbie Rowe may not be in the picture. We don`t know for sure. What does that tell you about the relationship Katherine Jackson is essential in the kids` life?

KAISER: It`s going to be really important that Katherine be a supportive and terrific role model, because it seems like she is the primary player. They were already connected to her. They already have a relationship with her, and that`s going to help them through this.

SMITH: All right. Folks, thank you so much for joining us tonight. Thank you also to Stacy, to Flo. Dr. Drew is going to be back tomorrow. Stay tuned to HLN for up to the minute coverage of the Conrad Murray trial or just go to hlntv.com/michaeljackson for the very latest. You can get it 24 hours a day.

Have a great night.

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I think FLO IS A LIEING BITCH MJ WAS NEVER IN LOVE DEBBIE AND REMEMBER THE TIMES WASNOT ABOUT MISS ROSS OR DEBBY. fLO MAKES ME SICK. SHE NEEDS TO GET A LIFE. THAT SONG WAS ABOUT LISA MARIE

gwenie202 wrote:

I think FLO IS A LIEING BITCH MJ WAS NEVER IN LOVE DEBBIE AND REMEMBER THE TIMES WASNOT ABOUT MISS ROSS OR DEBBY. fLO MAKES ME SICK. SHE NEEDS TO GET A LIFE. THAT SONG WAS ABOUT LISA MARIE

Really it has been said RTT was about Diana but MJ was so mysterious and I think it could have been about LM. Flo wants to sell stories, the problem with DR is that we know the truth about her.

Probably it could been someone we don't konw about he was in love with????

Well it could be but I think it isn't.

Flo Anthony on the MJ Preservation Project Radio Show, 22nd Jan 2012

Q: There was a tabloid story in the early 90s about a security guard that supposedly stole I guess, a photo of Mike in his hot tub with two women and I wondered if there was any truth to that story. And I also wanted to ask about Liza Minnelli, she came out a few months ago and saying that Mike had proposed to somebody in the early 90s and she turned him down…
Flo Anthony: I don’t remember a hot tub picture but he had a lot of hot tubs so that could be true. And Liza wasn’t saying that he proposed to her, was she?
Q: No no –
Flo: You know I thought that he was actually engaged to this chick that lived in the Bay area of California, that was an artist.
Q: Oh the Oakland –
Flo: So I thought they were actually engaged.
Q: Oh and what happened? Did she –
Flo: I don’t know what happened, then they broke up. But I always thought they were actually engaged. In fact, if Candace goes back in her archives I believe I said that on the Joan Rivers show. She had one of those funny African American names, Yatzibazi or something like that, I don’t really remember the girl’s name, but it was one of those type names.

Flo Antony states:

Some notes from the radio show

-Flo stated that Michael had A LOT of girlfriends. She believed that MJ and June Chandler (Jordan Chandler's mother) had a relationship.
-She would not go into detail with the Sheila/Michael relationship because the woman is still alive.

- MJ and Stephanie were more friends than a couple.

-She said that MJ called her angry when Inside Edition did not call him the "King of Pop" and that the show kept on going on over the Jew Me/Kick Me thingy.

-Michael planted all those stories about him. He did that because he was a prankster and likes to play people. He likes to create hype. He had Flo sometimes do it for him.

-Michael was a big fan of Prince, the singer.

-He and Debbie had sex, according Debbie Rowe.

She stated that MJ was closest to Marlon.

-When MJ was younger, he was closest to Janet.

- She even tried to imply that in some way Stephanie Mills is not really telling the truth about her time with MJ.


-Flo is saying that Conrad Murray is a pawn/scapegoat.

-MJ & Diana Ross was more than friends. They were really close and Michael was so in love with her and they did everything together.

-Michael had a lot of problems with Diana marrying Arne in the mid 80's.

-MJ and Princess Stephanie of Monaco had a fling relationship.

Flo anthony's transcrips about MJ's women


Naomi
Q: There’s a book out by somebody involved in the video who said Naomi was all over Mike –
Flo: Oh yeah, somebody called me up when they did the video. In fact LaToya were on a plane going from Paris to London when the pictures of the outfits he had… LaToya “Did you call up, let’s find out where he got that outfit?” ‘Cause she really liked that outfit. But someone called me up and said “Is Michael Jackson going with Naomi Campbell because that was some freaky stuff they were doing in that video!” And you know he got her a record deal with Sony after she did the video.


Princess Stephanie
Q: On those tapes he talks about a Princess [thinking about the S transcripts] or something?
Flo: Oh that was Princess Stephanie. He was very close to her. He probably considered her like a girlfriend. They were all very close. I mean Prince Albert also used to like LaToya. Yeah, he used to like LaToya. But yeah, Mike dated Princess Stephanie so that would be the Princess.


Glenda
Flo: I know he used to have a girlfriend named Glenda though, for some reason.
Q: Yeah?
Flo: I really do.
Q: It seems to me like it would be really hard to keep up with his girlfriends.
Flo: Yeah, but I’m just saying, I did a pretty good job of it, but I don’t know why that’s clicking in my mind when you said the Glenda tapes. I don’t know who… somebody told me about her. I’ve never heard of any Glenda tapes, but I think that’s what I heard.
Q: From what I remember, Glenda was married, wasn’t she?
Flo: I don’t know if she’s married or not but all I’m remembering is this name Glenda and I think that he had a girlfriend named Glenda.

Flo: I’m still on this chick Glenda. I’m gonna be dead asleep and I’m gonna wake up and remember everything about her. It’s gonna bother me all night.


Diana Ross
Q: I want to know more about Michael’s relationship with his good friend Diana Ross.
Flo: With Diana Ross – what’s her name, in (??) Berry Gordy’s book, she called it a “nondescript relationship.”
Q: Nondescript?
Flo: Nondescript. ‘Cause they were so very close, you know, they went on cruises together, they went here together, they went there together… you know, he was very much in love with her from a kid. When she got married the first time to Bob Ellis, Mike was like 17 and then when she got married the next time, to Arne Naess, he had a lot of problems with that, because he was very much in love with his “nondescript” friend, Diana Ross.
Q: Of course there’s a long standing rumour or feeling that some fans have that they were more than just friends…
Flo: Oh I’ve always believed that but I’m not gonna say that (laughs). Yeah, but I’ve always believed that.


Stephanie Mills
Q: What about, another person that I heard about [him dating], was Stephanie Mills?
Flo: Yeah, he did. I was talking about them today. I don't think they - I think they were very good friends. I mean rumour has it -- and I love Stephanie so I'm not trying to knock her but rumour has it that, (laughing) a very good rumour, that she would go to Hayvenhurst and he would go out the window so that she wouldn't know he was home.
Q: (laugh) So it was probably more on her end?
Flo: Yeah, she was dating Jeffery from Shalamar early on also.
Q: She said she also washed his underwear, washed his clothes...
Flo: Well I guess she was... she was very close to LaToya. So she was around a lot. They were very good friends, Stephanie and LaToya.


June Chandler
Q: The woman I was going to ask about was June Chandler. That was one of the women that was...
Flo: Oh yeah. I always believed that Mike had a relationship with her. Yeah.
Q: Okay. And for people who don't know who...
Flo: (gets talked over, says something I miss) She was the mother of Jordie Chandler, the boy who accused Michael of child molestation.
Q: Right. And do you think because the relationship went bad all of a sudden those allegations came out...
Flo: No, no. His father just saw Michael and saw a gold mine.


Debbie
Flo: Well, he’s got two children that were conceived naturally. I mean Blanket was born to a surrogate mother but the other two were conceived naturally. So there’s no, what do you call it? Sexually stunted? So right there you can see that’s not true.
Q: Right, I guess what she’s saying is that people around him try to make him seem –
Flo: I knew people who knew him.
Q: -- Like [some people think] he’s not a full blooded male, I guess.
Flo: Well he’s got Paris and Prince who were conceived naturally. So right away you see that’s not true.

Q: You’re gonna upset tones of people by saying Prince and Paris were conceived naturally…
Flo: Why am I upsetting people? I mean, he and Debbie had sex. They had a 18 year relationship, why is that so upsetting? And this is from Debbie. Debbie told me this. I’m not getting this third hand, fourth hand, this is coming straight from her.

Sheila
Q: I wanted to know more about this woman he was dating...
Flo: He had a lot of girlfriends so you can't just go into one. Michael had a lot of girlfriends. I don't know why people don't realize that. And uh, due to her privacy and she's still around and kicking, I won't go into all that, but he had a lot of girlfriends.
Q: So why do you think the media portrayed him as such an innocent person when he had so many women?
Flo: Well because he wasn't seen much with any women other than Debbie and Lisa Marie. And before that, Brooke Shields, that's why. But he had a lot of girls.
Q: Was that purposeful?
Flo: Um I don't know, I guess so, since it worked.
Q: Did he want to maintain his privacy or their privacy or...
Flo: He did want to maintain privacy. I don't know so much within there, but he did want to maintain privacy. He also had a relationship early on with Tatum O'Neal.

Q: I know you can’t talk about Sheila to respect her privacy and I respect that.
Flo: I don’t believe I ever said her name, did I?
Q: I think you did say Sheila, but -
Flo: I did? Okay.
Q: But what we wanted to find out – because people said -
Flo: You have a tape that I did say her name?
Q: Uhh…
Flo: I don’t think I did.
Q: I think you might have said it.
[MJ Preservation Project girls play the tape of her talking about Sheila the first time]
Flo: (laughing) Gotcha! You outted me. Okay.
Q: (laughing) We weren’t trying to out you, but there was so much controversy over that. Because people were confused when you said, “Go with” they weren’t sure if –
Flo: “Go with” – I’m old school.
Q: They dated.
Flo: They dated, yes.
Q: Oh, okay, that was it. And I guess people had heard about this, and people wanted to believe that he didn’t date a whole bunch of people or you know, what ever the case may be, so you may have rocked a few people’s world, when you said that.


Shoshana
Flo: Another time, this was in the early 90s, there was a story about him and pictures of him with some girl, they were at - oh gosh where was that place he used to like to stay? the place that's like the Castle in Las Vegas that he used to stay at, what's the name of that Casino? Maybe it was the Luxor anyway there was a story in the National Enquirer and so I called up about the story and Mike said, "Oh yeah, just go with it, just let me see it so I can agree with everything when they call." So things like that.



Jacuzzi pics/engaged to artist from the Bay area with a name like "Yatzibatzi"
Q: There was a tabloid story in the early 90s about a security guard that supposedly stole I guess, a photo of Mike in his hot tub with two women and I wondered if there was any truth to that story. And I also wanted to ask about Liza Minnelli, she came out a few months ago and saying that Mike had proposed to somebody in the early 90s and she turned him down…
Flo: I don’t remember a hot tub picture but he had a lot of hot tubs so that could be true. And Liza wasn’t saying that he proposed to her, was she?
Q: No no –
Flo: You know I thought that he was actually engaged to this chick that lived in the Bay area of California, that was an artist.
Q: Oh the Oakland –
Flo: So I thought they were actually engaged.
Q: Oh and what happened? Did she --
Flo: I don’t know what happened, then they broke up. But I always thought they were actually engaged. In fact, if Candace goes back in her archives I believe I said that on the Joan Rivers show. She had one of those funny African American names, Yatzibatzi or something like that, I don’t really remember the girl’s name, but it was one of those type names.